Sandy Gennaro | Full Interview
Sandy Gennaro | Full Interview
“Beat The Odds (In Business & Life)”
Cris Cohen talks with drummer Sandy Gennaro (Cyndi Lauper / Joan Jett) about his new book, "Beat The Odds (in Business & Life)". They discuss:
- Surviving and thriving even in an environment as unstable as the music business
- Belief, Enthusiasm, Attitude, Tenacity, Service
- Applying the lessons of the book in the internet age
- And more
Sandy Gennaro's website: sandygennaro.com
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(This transcript has been slightly edited for clarity.)
I’ve been living these principles
Cris Cohen: I already know about your background. I've watched excerpts from your talks. And now, I've read this brand-new book, “Beat The Odds (In Business & Life).” What I'm curious about, though, is for people who have not delved into your story yet, what is your pitch? Why should people in the corporate world take advice from a rock drummer?
Sandy Gennaro: Good question. Because as opposed to corporate, (with) the music business, there's no template. And I talk about this in my presentation. If you have "a normal business," you can set out the planning stages. First of all, if you provide a high-quality product or service that's going to benefit the customer, you price the product or service at a reasonable price.
You have the marketing team to get the word out about your product or service. You have your in-house team to create the product or service. You have the customer service team to deal with the potential customers. You have a plan in place, a schematic if you will, a grid in which to work. And if all of those things are in place, if all the ducks are in a row, eventually the customer is going to be happy with the product or service and tell other customers. And they will come back. And you have new customers as a result of your existing customers, because it's word of mouth.
Eventually, over the course of time -- and the amount of time depends on the situation -- but eventually your business will be successful or incrementally be better than the year before, because you have all those ducks in a row.
In the music business, I get off a headline tour with Cyndi Lauper, touring arenas all around the world. I get home. I wake up the next day and my calendar is empty. And the fact is, only 5% of musicians make a living for longer than one year.
So, in my case, I've made a living for over 50 years. I played with platinum artists, three of which are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I've done world tours, played on top 10 records, and, between TV and live, have performed for over a billion people. So, how does somebody like me, who has no family history of anybody being in the music business… I'm not a virtuoso on the drum set. So how does somebody like me beat some tremendous odds?
What corporate has to know is that I based my presentation, based my life, on an acronym called BEATS. And not only have I been playing beats for over 55 years, I've been living these principles. And the principles that I speak about apply to everybody, not just corporate (employees). It applies to all human beings. It's the foundation of life. The BEATS acronym stands for belief, enthusiasm, attitude, tenacity, and service.
It's not just when you go to work, you pay attention to this. You incorporate these attributes into the fabric of your everyday life. And it's a combination of your thinking, how you perceive events that happen to everybody, how you perceive events that are upcoming in your personal and/or business life, in combination with how you treat people along the way. And it has to do with your team. If you're a leader, if you're a CEO, it has to do with your team. If you're a parent, it has to do with your family, your personal and business life.
I remind corporations what's really important. Sometimes people in a corporate world focus too much on the numbers, on the result of somebody's work at their company. "What have you produced for me? What have you done for me and my company?" And they're judged based on just those numbers… spreadsheets, quarterly quotas, pie graphs. "How much is your vacation going to be? How much is going to be my bonus?" These are all thoughts about numbers.
And I call this “paying attention to just the icing and not the cake.” The cake in this case is the people behind the numbers. Focus on the person in addition to the numbers that they produce.
CEOs need to be reminded, because their head sometimes is totally involved with the numbers and the profitability and the shareholders. "Are the shareholders going to be happy?" But what about the people that provide the numbers for your company, that provide the product or service that your shareholders love? You know what I mean? It's about that. Don't lose sight of the human being that produces your numbers.
Cris Cohen: And it is something that's happened time and time again. And the worst policy along these lines, in my opinion, is often referred to as “rank and yank,” where a company says, "Okay, we're going to rank everyone in every department. At the end of the year, the bottom 10% are going to get knocked out."
Recently, Mark Zuckerberg announced that basically he was going to be doing this with Meta over at Facebook and Instagram. On LinkedIn a friend said, "What do you think about this?"
I said, "Well, anytime you start stealing from Enron's playbook, it's usually going to end badly."
It's one of the most disgusting things I think a corporation can do. But that begs the question... Because you're right, they do focus on numbers and data and charts. But then the question is, how can they measure or evaluate their people?
Sandy Gennaro: Well, you take the 10% that you're about to fire. Zuckerberg is judging his whole workforce on the numbers they produce. That's the What. The How is how they produce those numbers. So, if you're in there above 90% and your job is safe, well, you could have produced those numbers by lying, by downplaying a rival, telling a mistruth about a competitor.
For example, bands should, in general, instead of just giving a band member a blanket bonus at the end of a tour, you bonus the people according to not only their performance, but how they dealt with fans and how they aligned with the culture of your band, of your gig. It's not only the numbers.
Someone in that bottom 10%, maybe they were lacking in their job performance because maybe their wife or their husband was diagnosed with a tremendous disease.
You don't know the reason why that 10% produce such low numbers unless you ask them, unless you confer with them. Ask questions of the human being that supplies the numbers. Okay, Zuckerberg, "Well, I got 12 million employees. How am I going to do that?" You have managers that deal with the teams. Zuckerberg is at the top of the pyramid, but he has an executive team that manages certain segments of his business.
So, train the team leaders. It's the trickle down, all the way down to your suppliers, all the way down to the people that change the wastebaskets in your office or your factory. Everybody is really important in a company's ecosystem, not only the shareholders. You want to make the shareholders happy, but you also want to make your employees happy.
You want to make the common customer happy. The people that clean your office, you want to make them happy too because they all have a job to do that is important for the success of your company. And to only focus on the numbers is not fair, because the person in the top 10% could be ripping the company off behind your back.
Cris Cohen: Yeah. Well, that was the thing with Enron. These guys were just told, "If you make your numbers, we don't care how you do it." And thus, they went on a string of illegal endeavors that brought down this mammoth corporation.
Sandy Gennaro: Well, that's what happens, Cris. Karma catches up to you, man. You will get away with something for a certain amount of time and then you're blindsided sometime in the future. And bye-bye, Enron.
It’s a mindset
Cris Cohen: And then, one thing that I think really differentiates your book from a lot that would be lumped into the same category is, right off the bat, you talk about, "This is not one of those books that has impossible promises, that will tell you I can make you into Batman in five minutes." Because there are so many of those out there, where they just promise the moon, the stars, and everything else.
And it's kind of despicable really. So, I love that you attack that head on. But what I'm wondering is, in terms of "Beating The Odds," how does someone, an average person beat the odds, have the inspiration to go for better things and yet also keep realistic expectations?
Sandy Gennaro: Well, the whole thing about beating the odds is that it's the average person, as you put it. It's a mindset. The first word in the acronym is Belief. And to me, the foundation of why I was able to beat the odds... If you ask me for one reason -- one reason and only one reason why I was able to beat the odds -- it's because I have a staunch belief that there's a power greater than me at work in my life, and that anything and everything is possible with this higher power.
And it's not about organized religion. It's not about putting the name on a certain theory or a certain philosophy. It's the recognition of a power greater than ourselves at work. And when you align yourself with that higher power — the creator of the universe, that's what this power is — anything is possible. Anything and everything is possible. So, it's wrapping your mind around being a partner with this higher power.
I look at the higher power. You can call it God. You can call it Goddess. You can call it The Universe. You can call it a higher self. You can call it whatever you want to call it. There's no gender attached to it. But when you believe and you align and you subscribe your life to this higher power, the possibilities are endless. So, it's knowing that you have a co-pilot. You have a GPS on your shoulder that is a know all, be all creator of the universe. It's like having a co-pilot piloting a plane, but the person that invented the plane is sitting next to you.
And so, you have that advice coming, that inspiration. That God energy is inside of all of us, because we have a soul and that's what makes people different than a tulip for example. We have a soul inside of us, but we have to tap into that power and that God energy. Because we're human beings. He gave us a choice, gave us free will to choose what we want to choose when we want to choose it, and how to think.
We have a choice of how we think, about how we perceive things that happen in the world, negatively or positively.
But also, a combination of that is how we treat other people. Because other people, no matter who they are, have that little God energy, that little flame inside, because we're all human beings. So, when we do things and we say things to kind of lift up other people, when we say things to put a smile on other people's faces, when we give advice to other people that ends up affecting their lives in a positive way, we go in the flow of the universe.
The flow of the universe, to me, is positivity. And when we add to that positivity, whether it's a thought... And this is the most minute example of this. When I hear a siren go by my house or a fire truck, I silently say to myself, "Bless.” Whatever situation is happening to those people, I hope it works out. It's a thought transfer.
It's saying hi to somebody in the supermarket, looking at the nametag and going, "Hey, Jane, how you doing today? You doing all right? Well, I want to thank you for your service, Jane. I really appreciate it." You put a smile on somebody's face, because how we're judged, Cris.
And this is not to get too philosophical about it. But how we're judged at the end of the day, when we're pushing up daisies, is how we made other people feel when they crossed our paths, whether you're a CEO of an organization or whether you're somebody that checks groceries in your supermarket. It's how we make people feel.
Now, when you align your actions and your thoughts and your words with the higher power, the positivity, that higher power takes over and puts things in your path… people, ideas, opportunities in your path in order to make what you can see as your goal happen. And that's basically what happened.
In retrospect, under those odds, how did I exist and still exist in the business where only 5% (make it)? How did that happen? I've come to the conclusion that that is the only way that that happens. And I tell stories from my 55-year career in the book in more detail. But in my speaking engagements, I tell the stories that exhibit this, that it's actually true.
Open your eyes as a human being
Cris Cohen: And along those lines, another way in which I think your book importantly differentiates itself from a lot in this category is… anyone who knows you, knows the story of the now-famous Dave, the guy that you took time to say hello to, to take a picture with, etc., when you were touring with the Pat Travers band. And the full story is fabulous, but it eventually leads to you being the drummer for Cyndi Lauper on those iconic songs.
Sandy Gennaro: Let me interrupt you. But not only that, Cris... Yes, that led to a big business windfall for me. But it led to the meeting of the person that I'm still married to 36 years later. So, that's how working in conjunction, in alignment with the universe and the higher power changed my life.
But the Cyndi Lauper / Dave in the doorway story… five minutes with him changed my life. And I wake up every single morning, still, at 71 years old, enjoying the benefits reaped from that five minutes in the doorway in 1981 or 1982.
Cris Cohen: Yes. But when I was going through this... Because again, I knew the story already. But when I was reading the book, what really jumped off the page for me, was you said, "It's not about the one Dave you spend a minute with. It's the thousands of Daves that you spend a minute with." Because not many people put that context in there, where you don't know who is going to be the key. And so, it's the idea that, "Oh, you were nice to one guy," and it turned out this way. But really, no, you were kind to thousands of guys...
Sandy Gennaro: Correct.
Cris Cohen: ...and making that a habit. And I think that's an important aspect that gets left out in a lot of these kinds of conversations.
Sandy Gennaro: Absolutely, Cris. You're 100% right. Because you don't spend five minutes with somebody with the thought of, "Well, what's in it for me?" When I spent that five minutes with Dave in the doorway, there was nobody in the dressing room. He's there to see the drummer. He's not there to see Pat Travers. He's there to see me because he's standing there with the pen and the camera. But you just have to live that way.
And you have to have your eyes open to notice those little details, little situations where you glance over and you see somebody needing help or somebody struggling with getting a suitcase out of the overhead on a plane. Well, just don't turn your face. Grab the luggage for the person. You have to just open your eyes as a human being. And if there's any opportunity to advance somebody, to help somebody, to put a smile on somebody's face because they're other human beings… They all have that little flame inside.
And the idea is, we need to do something or say something or act in a certain way that engulfs that flame. Pour some gasoline on that flame and ignite in that other person. Even if it's for a second. Whether you help somebody with their luggage or give them life-changing advice or you're their CEO or you're a parent and you're trying to raise a child to do the right thing and think the right thing. It's an across-the-board message. And it applies equally to janitors, to CEOs, to roadies, or to rock stars. It's applicable to everybody.
Cris Cohen: And I think also the important point is all those people you met who did not have the impact that Dave had on your life, those were not wasted interactions.
Sandy Gennaro: They're not wasted at all. Somebody that you help, let's say using the example of helping somebody with their luggage, it may come back to you. It always comes back. It's a law of the universe. What goes around comes around. It's action and reaction, cause and effect. And it may not be a direct effect. The person that you helped with the luggage out of the overhead, maybe a week later or two weeks later or however many days later, you pull up to a restaurant late for your reservation and you're looking for a parking spot and somebody pulls out right in front of the restaurant. Oh, there it is.
So, leave it up to the universe. I am not the designer of the universe. I'm not at the controls. I'm a pawn. I work on behalf of the higher power. And I try to treat people the way that would put a smile on the high power's face. You know what I mean? But you don't do it for any kind of accolade or any kind of reason at all. You just let go and let God. You try to do it.
And conversely, if I may add, when somebody screws you over in your life -- and I've been screwed over in my life by other musicians -- you're not a pushover. You try to even the score if you will. You try to get the money when I didn't get paid on two weeks’ worth of touring. You try to get the money. You don't just lay down and lay back. But after a certain point, you pull the shade down on the people that wronged you and you say to yourself, "Well, I tried. I respect this person from afar. I don't wish any harm on the person."
I just figuratively pull the shade down on the person and pretend they moved out to Mongolia. "So, goodbye. You're out of my life." I don't carry that revenge. I don't carry that around. That's like carrying a cinderblock on your shoulder. Conversely, I let the universe take over and do what it's supposed to do as a result of my thoughts and actions.
Cris Cohen: Yeah, but to play devil's advocate a little bit, how do you square this philosophy with... There's a preponderance of horrendous role models in the business world right now. Elon Musk or the guy who started WeWork. Even Jack Welch now is found out to be just a disaster in his time at GE. And these were A) awful people who treated people badly and B) people who are even now kind of breaking the law and there are no repercussions. So, how does your beating the odds philosophy incorporate that?
Sandy Gennaro: Well, listen. Don't be too quick in saying there are no repercussions. As I said, there is no bad deed that goes unpunished. And there is no good deed that goes unrewarded. To me, that is a law. That is not my opinion. To me, that is karma. And so, I can't speak to how these people are going to be where the score is going to be even. That's not up to me. But I don't agree with a statement where somebody's treating somebody wrongly and there's no repercussions. I would beg to differ with that.
There are always repercussions on negative activity, whether it comes from the person you're treating negatively or whether it comes from, God forbid, "Oh, my house is on this side of the mountain and there was a mudslide.” I don't know. I am not the designer of karma, so I don't know, Cris. But one thing I do know, there are repercussions, whether it happens immediately, instant karma, as John Lennon would say, or would happen years later in some kind of unrelated way: Natural disaster affects your house, a flood, a tornado, sickness, whatever it is. There is a payback.
And it may not happen in this lifetime. That's the thing, too. I have no knowledge of what happens when we go through the veil.
Opening for Queen
Cris Cohen: And then another example in the book, which I thought could apply to a lot of different people, especially in their work lives, in corporate situations, was when you tell the story about getting involved with the German band Craaft. And there are two negotiations that happen in that story. The first is to get you to play on the album. And the second one is to get you to go on tour.
The first one, you lightened up a little on your needs, your wants. And you were open minded to the possibilities. But then, when it came time to tour, you stood your ground a little bit more firmly in getting what you deserved.
What I'm wondering -- because I think a lot of people face similar situations -- is how do you know when to ease up and when to stand firm?
Sandy Gennaro: There's not one set rule in stone where I use, "I'm going to stand firm on this. I'm going to let go on this and negotiate or whatever." A major factor is their sense of appreciation of what you do. In other words, they were not just looking for a drummer. They wanted me in particular, because of a recommendation. It's not like they needed (any) drummer and here's what you're going to get paid.
So, I made concessions based on the people that referred me to the management in Germany. I was close with those American people that referred me to them. And it was an album project. As you fly to Frankfurt, you learn the songs. You fly to Frankfurt, and you're in one hotel. And you are in one workspace, the recording studio. And however long it takes you to play the basic tracks, you get the check and you go home. But a tour, I was a little bit more staunch in what I needed for the tour.
And you're correct in that, because a tour is a tour. A tour for an opening act in Europe and not giving away who the tour was for yet. But I'm thinking, "Okay, we’ve got to probably ride in a van. And we're going to be probably playing clubs." And so, it's the long trips. And the whole itinerary of an opening act tour, especially in Europe, driving in a van, and the day to day, and the long trips in between and whatever.
I was a little bit more concerned about the compensation in a touring environment, because of the logistics, and the travel each day, and the kind of clubs we're playing. And we went through all of that negotiation. And finally, they showed their good faith because Craaft -- the three members that were signed to the label in Craaft -- they made me a limited partner in the band, not just a salary guy.
They couldn't come to where I needed money-wise, salary-wise, week to week. But they said, "Listen, we can't afford that number. We'll give you a certain number. But we'll make you a limited partner." So, if the album becomes successful, I get a piece of that profit. And I said, "Well, okay. That's fine. By the way, who's the tour with?"
"Oh. We're opening for Queen."
"Oh, shit." I would have gone out there for a couple of shekels.
It was one of the most rewarding experiences, even though 90% of the people (reading) this never heard of Craaft. But I'm telling you, when I'm asked what was one of the top three tours I ever did, that was definitely one of them. It was just unbelievable.
Cris Cohen: Yeah. Well, I mean, I've heard a lot of cool stories. It's hard to beat having Brian May turn to you and say, "Oh, have you met Freddie? Let me introduce you."
Sandy Gennaro: Yeah. I tell the story in great detail in the book. But they used to play two and three nights, sell two and three nights out in the city. And on the first night, the record company threw a party for Queen. And we were always invited as the opening act. Brian always said, "You guys are always invited. Just show your laminate. We'll get the address to your road manager where the party is going to be." I went to every single party that I was able to go to.
Of any people on the band and the crew, I hung out with Brian mostly. And the thing I remember, his drink of choice was Tanqueray and tonic. A gin and tonic basically. And the drink, when you put the Tanqueray and tonic under a blacklight in these clubs, it glowed. The drink itself glowed under a black light.
And Freddie (Mercury) would go to maybe one of these parties, two of these parties a week. Brian was at every one. Roger (Taylor) was almost at every one. John Deacon never... I never saw him in any other place except onstage or going to the stage.
But Brian was the most forthcoming, professional guy. (He) came into our dressing room after the first show, "Welcome to the tour. Any problems, come to Brian. We'll sort them out. You guys are invited. You guys sound great." And that's how I met Freddie and hung out with Freddie and took pictures of Freddie on stage. And it was just an awesome experience.
Work comes as a byproduct of helping people
Cris Cohen: A lot of these stories took place pre-internet, when there was a lot of one-on-one contact. Any kind of connections happened usually in person. Now, there's a lot of stuff that's happening online, especially in this post-COVID era. And I'm wondering... There are all the sites like LinkedIn, where people are trying to make their careers and trying to advance themselves in the business world. But a lot of it has just become, as someone once said, a complete dumpster fire. How should someone take advantage of these places like LinkedIn in terms of looking at their business, their career, but applying the lessons of your book?
Sandy Gennaro: Good question, Cris. That was a very innovative question.
Cris Cohen: Thank you.
Sandy Gennaro: My vibe has always been, "Let me know how I can help you." It's not always, "Let me know how you can help me."
When I was trying to get my first big break, we're in a jam session or something when I meet new people. I say, "Here's my card. Let me know if I can ever help you in any way." So, it was never, "I'm a drummer. Let me know if you hear of any gigs." It was none of that.
And when I post something on LinkedIn or Instagram or Facebook or whatever, it's never about, "Hey, I'm a speaker. Hey, I'm a drummer. Let me know if you have any gigs." Yes, it's very important to be out there. And it's very important to be to be noticed on those platforms, very important because that's the way of the world right now, as you say. But it's never from a position of, "Hey, on this, let me know if you have any work for me." It's never from that.
I always post uplifting things, maybe something from my past, maybe a little clip from Cyndi Lauper. It's for entertainment and it's for inspiration. In other words, I'll have a slide and I'll maybe put a little word of advice, just something to help people. And people notice that. They comment on that. You know, you're on LinkedIn all the time. They comment on your posts.
And by the way, I’ve got to thank you for posting little excerpts. I know you do that for other people as well that you interview. And I think that's very, very cool. You're not only letting people know about the whole podcast, but you excerpt little things. And months after the podcast, you put something up there. And it's in that's spirit. You do something to help people.
If I'm talking to you or you're talking to another musician and they offer some advice or they have a little capsule of wisdom, you'll edit that out and you'll post it because it will help people. So, I post things that will help people and/or entertain. I don't post things to try to get work. The work comes as a byproduct. "Hey, who's this guy with all this inspirational stuff? I need a speaker." So, the work comes as a result.
It's just like Dave in the doorway. It's the same thing, whether you're talking about LinkedIn or you're talking about Dave in the doorway. You do it out of the goodness of your heart. You do it to put a smile on somebody's face. I post a video of me and Joan Jett or me and The Monkees just to go, " I'm a big fan of Joan," to put a smile on somebody's face or entertain or motivate or inspire. And then the work comes as a result of that. You know what I mean? You're not selling a product or a service. You inspire.
Cris Cohen: Yeah, yeah. I get that. And I mean, with my own posting that you were alluding to, luckily, I get to talk to a lot of really interesting people who have a lot of great insights. And I'm realistic in the sense that, "Okay, not everyone is going to watch every minute of every video," but there's a lot of great material that's in the middle or in the end. And I just want to make sure people see that, because it's fabulous.
Sandy Gennaro: Right. And in that spirit, that's how you post, because you want people to see something that's fabulous. Maybe that will help them. Maybe that will put a smile on their face. I don't know what your reasoning is in how you pick one edit over another. But you don't do it to try to get work. But as a result of your posting, "Who's this guy named Cris Cohen? Oh, Bands To Fans. Oh, oh, so cool. So, maybe I'll..." Or maybe another musician will reach out because of what you posted.
So, it comes back to you in the same way.
A spirit of appreciation
Cris Cohen: And then, finally, you talk to a lot of different big companies, small companies, service groups, and everything. What I'm curious about is: What's your ideal audience? What are you looking for in a group that you talk to?
Sandy Gennaro: My ideal audience, it could be anybody. I've spoken to people, organizations like School of Rock, where there are kids basically. I've really enjoyed my 27 years of teaching drums and music business at the Drummers Collective or The Collective in New York City, which is no longer in existence. But my favorite type of speaking gig is a keynote in a conference, where there's anywhere from 100 people to 2,000 people.
But in a conference setting, I'm able to have a drum set delivered. So, I play along. As part of the message, I play along with a medley of all the songs that I've been involved with, all the top 10 hits that I've been involved with. So, that's always entertainment. And I get the audience involved. Again, it's not all icing. It's not all me. It's two-way. I want to get the audience involved in my presentation, which is the cake. So, I have a lot of interactive things. I do a little thing with “We Will Rock You.”
Now, that could be for the American Bricklayers Association. And it's a weekend in Vegas. And I speak for an hour and 15 minutes. But I also speak for the Vistage Organization, which is an organization of peer-to-peer CEO groups. There are chapters all over the country. But I speak in a U-shaped table in a conference room for anywhere from 10 to 20 CEOs that are heads of their non-competing companies.
Now, what is a drummer in a rock and roll band going to give to CEOs that are heads of billion-dollar companies? It's about that message, and everybody needs to see it. So, I don't care who I'm speaking to.
I don't turn down any speaking gigs because it's not my ideal audience. Everybody needs to hear the message. It's an across-the-board message. And I don't really have a favorite group to speak to. I talk to the meeting planner or the chair of these meetings. "What's trending in your company? What's trending in your group of CEOs now in this particular time?" And I try to address the trending issues within a group.
Whether it's drum set involved or not, whether it's a three-hour workshop or an hour keynote... I've done some keynotes for a small chiropractic company that had a staff of 10. And they wanted a drum set. So, I drove down to Birmingham with my drum set and did my presentation to 10 staff members of a chiropractic office. And I get equal enjoyment when I'm speaking to 2,000 people or 20 CEOs. It doesn't really matter.
And it's the same way with playing. I played gigs where there were two people at the bar and the bar smelled like cat pee. Or I played to 110,000 people in a Queen audience. But I enjoy them just as much. It's because I'm given a gift. And people are in the audience to see my gift, whether it's speaking or playing. And I appreciate that. So, I never take my gift for granted, whether it's speaking or whether it's playing drums. I'm always thankful.
And that's one of the key things that I advocate in my presentation is having a spirit of appreciation. Because, Cris, regardless of what's going on in this world today, you wake up in the morning and you start your day with 10 people or 10 things that you're appreciative of. And that's an awesome way to start your day. And it's impossible to be depressed when you're in a spirit of appreciation of what you do have.
If you walk to the bathroom on two healthy legs, there's something to be thankful for. And think about the little kid in the wheelchair at the airport. You know what I mean? Think of the people in the Ukraine and what they're dealing with now. What is there not to be happy about, me living in a house where I can go to the fridge and get food?
I can bend your ear for hours, Cris, as you probably can tell.